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Post by GypsyMoon on Feb 13, 2011 12:15:42 GMT -5
spectrophilia 1. Sexual attraction to ghosts. 2. Engaging in sexual activity with a ghost. This is different then Hypnopompic halusination. Because most of the time the subject wants and invites a ghost,spirit,demonic to have sex with them. there willing to create a doorway. Incubi and sucubi however are not for the most part invited in willingily the subject often claims spectral rape. so again this is different this is people who want to have sex with a spirit. Or some claims is they have sex with a loved one after they have crossed over. "After my hubby died we started having great sex" type of mentality. I would like your opinions on this, what and how to best handle a situation like this if we run across it. What to tell the subject how to find out if its truelly happening. Maybe a sleep over? also what is your opinions about this matter.
please keep your opinions "Kind" because someone who has spectorphilia could run across this forum. again thank you.
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Post by angelica777 on Feb 14, 2011 0:58:21 GMT -5
My first thought was that there is not a problem if someone is inviting activity. This is a choice on the part of the individual and not really subject to any opinion or advise from outside parties.
On the other hand, if someone has allowed or invited someone or thing into said activity and is asking for help to close the door, thats where assistance would be necessary.
I really dont have a clue as to validating the existance of this phenomenon. Perhaps setting up a camera or recorder to record activity if person is unsure it is really happening.
A person's mental state , mental history, medical conditions and medications could be a factor and would need to be considered. Someone with a sleep disorder, diagnosed mental illness, trauma or taking certain meds could possibly have resulting episodes /hallucinations of a sexual/paranormal nature.
This is an interesting scenario, one I have read about in para-fiction. If it is beyond someone's control, is uninvited and harmful and is a cause for anxiety or fear, then help is needed from either medical, psychiatric or spiritual experts to stop the activity from further harming the individual.
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Post by GypsyMoon on Feb 14, 2011 12:53:14 GMT -5
It is very intresting I agree. and yes there should be always a full medical background check of wellness and mental state of the subject. the movie "The Rite" asked a good question also Why cant it be both mental illness and spirital illness as well? Intresting subject and good advise as well Angelica.. I personally believe that its not good for a human to have sex with a spirit of anykind. I imagine it would be forbidden.
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Post by claddaghlass on Feb 14, 2011 14:18:11 GMT -5
There was a show on the subject called Ghostly Lovers. It's on the Travel Channel so far on Fridays.
They say also saying out loud that reclaiming your body, your space, and house is also supposed to cause the entity to stop.
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Post by GypsyMoon on Feb 14, 2011 21:36:10 GMT -5
There was a show on the subject called Ghostly Lovers. It's on the Travel Channel so far on Fridays. They say also saying out loud that reclaiming your body, your space, and house is also supposed to cause the entity to stop. agreed, But some of these people want it. Thats what I was worried about.
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Post by angelica777 on Feb 15, 2011 0:56:32 GMT -5
I dunno, if ya want it, ya want it, lol! No, if its forbidden or unhealthy, as long as it is consensual and not harming innocents...I guess one's hands are tied. To help would mean someone would have been passing the consensual point or reassessing the value of the relationship between themselves and said spirit/entity. How to tell if such a sexual relationship is valid? Would one camp out and wait to see. Recording with audio/visual with consent of individual requesting help? Physical and emotional/psychological signs of such sexual activity? Would the signs and symptoms differ from a plain old flesh and blood affair? I could see a person suffering from lack of sleep, dark circles under their eyes, tired, etc. The strain and drain from the nature of such a para/human encounter on a frequent basis could be significant. The relationship would be outside the norm (understatement), not something one would feel comfortable sharing with others. I suppose one could feel isolated and possibly lead to depression if is a deceased loved one...
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Post by claddaghlass on Feb 15, 2011 11:13:52 GMT -5
agreed, But some of these people want it. Thats what I was worried about. Agreed. What would also concern me, and has also been stated, is you don't know what you're getting when that door opens. I'm reminded of the bibical quote of "The Devil has the voice of many waters." While I don't believe in the devil or hell per say I believe there is real evil out there but you just don't know what you'll get. Even if it's a harmless, well meaning entity, it could be unhealthy for the person.
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Post by GypsyMoon on Feb 16, 2011 11:36:34 GMT -5
Intresting question Angelica,. If its consensual does that make it okay? If it is consensual between a Human wanting a afffair with a spirit should we say nothing? How do we really know the "spirit" has the best intentions?? How do we know this isnt just the begining of the end for that subject? Also how would we approach the subject without sounding condemning but instead concerned for the subjects safety? Like Erin said "The Devil has the voice of many waters."
That is a very very good way of looking at it and I had not thought of that angle. It is official your thinking like a paranormal investigator LOL.
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Post by claddaghlass on Feb 16, 2011 12:56:40 GMT -5
Like Erin said "The Devil has the voice of many waters." That is a very very good way of looking at it and I had not thought of that angle. It is official your thinking like a paranormal investigator LOL Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Thank you. ;D I remember a long time ago hearing a term called "ugly angels." It was originally used to describe angels and demons only but now it's been spread out to describe other things. If there's a new term I'm not aware of it. What an "ugly angel" is is a negative or demonic entity that disguises itself as a good, human, or otherwise positive entity to trick it's victim. This is/was most commonly seen through automatic writing but it has expanded into other things.
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Post by ojibwe on Feb 23, 2011 12:31:34 GMT -5
Hello All, Sorry I have been gone for so long..... LOOOOOONG BORING STORY!!! But I am VERY HAPPY to be back!! As to the question at hand. It is my opinion that the opening of a door to the other side, by anyone who is inexpieranced... heck even if you do have experience is DANGEROUS at the very least! Unless you have the power / strength to close the door each time, you can have no idea who or WHAT comes through at any given time.
I have personally worked on cases in which the individual thought she was Dream Walking, but in reality, she had opened a door which quickly turned into a vortex. That was more then 15 years ago and she still suffers attacks. This is only one isolated incident, there are so many others!!!
Further, the human brain is a wondrous thing. There have been several studies done, in which individual who state / believe they have lucid, sexual, dreams. Most times to climax, (both men and woman) actually do according to their body and brain wave readings... (and of course physical evidence)
OK, OK, to wrap my opinion up... Do I think it is possible to open a door or have a visitation by a loved one who has passes, OR "OTHER"... YES! I also believe that there are such things as incubus and succubus who may come across as loving and enticing at first, even presenting as a passed love or fantasy... only to become brutal rapists and sometimes worse. In some events, death has been the end result. I also think that the human brain is capable of "creating" a lover for whatever reason, be it loneliness, grief, jealously, etc...
It is all about the evidence and facts of each individual case.
Again, it is good to be back!!! I have missed you all so, so much!!!! With Much Love, Strength, Care and Laughter, Shonee
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Post by GypsyMoon on Feb 23, 2011 15:52:39 GMT -5
So glad to have you home. I am sending you light and love Shawn
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Post by ojibwe on Feb 24, 2011 11:18:54 GMT -5
;D I am happy to be home!!! I have nothing but LOVE for you and everyone here!!! I LOVE YOU MY SISTER!!!!
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Post by angelica777 on Feb 27, 2011 9:29:17 GMT -5
;D I am happy to be home!!! I have nothing but LOVE for you and everyone here!!! I LOVE YOU MY SISTER!!!! We love u too, chicka and are glad u are back! u have been greatly missed. I will be praying for you!!
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Post by ojibwe on Feb 28, 2011 11:19:56 GMT -5
THANK YOU SIS!!!! I LOVE YOU TOO!!!! ;D
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Post by I've rather not say on Jun 8, 2017 8:24:57 GMT -5
Hey . In tears here in some real need of help being having these ghost attacks for some years now had no idea that anyone else experienced ghosts having sex with them . I can see them sometimes more than others they are always about trying to or having sex with me raping or abusing me . I've never hurt so much and I want them to stop and I don't know what to do about it . Anyone know where I can get help from they distort my reality and have ruined my life . I have two kids and it feels like no cares . This is the first time I've admitted they have had sex with me . I've only ever managed to say I have ghosts to a select few ! Please if anyone knows what to do to get rid can you please help . Thanks .
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