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Post by GypsyMoon on Dec 18, 2010 14:36:43 GMT -5
You give amazing advice Angelica. You speak through personal wisdom from these experiences. everyone does not approach a situation the same. Its the outcome that matters most
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Post by blocks on Dec 19, 2010 13:27:43 GMT -5
Hello All, I am seeking assistance with a current situation I am experiencing. This is the 3rd major experience in about 5 years and I'm starting to get frustrated with the frequency. I'm not sure why it seems to be attracted to me. I have faith but am not religious. I do not really have interest in paranormal stuff, I believe in it though because of my experiences and try to avoid it. I'm worried that maybe something is following me so I'll give a brief description of the last two situations and then what's going on now and would like to know what other's think. So about five years ago I moved into an apartment that I was instantly uncomfortable in. Immediately things started disappearing. Bathrooms doors would be locked when I got home from work. The sink would turn on full blast while I was asleep with my boyfriend asleep beside me. The worst part was the overwhelming fear I felt when I was there. Idk, it was really effecting my emotional state. I told my story on a similar site and actually received an email from a psychic who said she thinked she dreamed of my situation and the spirit was very bad and referred me to a more expereinced psychic, who referred me to a Pegan priest who blessed my house. Things were fine after that. (That is very brief, there is a lot more detail) Then about two years later, I moved 900 miles away into a new apartment. I was pregnant at the time and feel I was even more senitive. I couldn't stand to be in my room. I would get anxiety, feel this heavy weight, and undoubtedly felt bad energy. One night I woke up to go use the bathroom, walked in the bathroom and was frozen with fear. A little peaked around the corner and told me be quite that "he" could see us. I looked to my left saw a black shadow. I prayed alot, demanded it leave, things got better. Here I am about two years later, in a new house, and things have started again. I dont' have the severity of the feelings I did the other two times but am expereincing a really heavy emotional change that is out of charactistic to me. Until very recently I did not attribute it to paranormal again but there are undeniable things happening. A couple weeks ago I was in my daughters room doing her hair and one of her toys started playing music from accross the room. I ignored it. We finished, went and brushed her teeth and as soon as I walked into her room again, it started again. Never did it before and hasn't happened again. Every morning for the past four mornings I wake up and one sofa in my living is moved. It's like someone pushed oneside forward or back...it's not consistant. Last night when I was getting ready to go to bed I stood up and said, "Alirght, it's straight" and one of my daugther's toys accross the room started playing. I just shut of the light and went to bed and woke up this morning and sure enough the sofa was moved. Again. My roommate was telling someone at work about it. He says that he's been sensitive his whole life and he feels a demon is following me. Idk what to think about that!! So thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? All appreciated. Thank you!
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Post by GypsyMoon on Dec 19, 2010 14:25:31 GMT -5
Hello and Welcome to the forums.. The advisers on this site has many years in paranormal happenings. A lot of knowledge in all things occult and demonic activity. Psychics: many are very helpful lots of knowledge can really help a person figure out what's going on. Sadly he majority of Psychics doesn't have a clue. Also just because they see something doesn't mean they have the education to know what it is or how to remove it. Same with Ministers,Clergy,Pagan's,Priest and anyone else. What I do know is Demonic's/evil spirits do have a 'Modus Operandi' aka a M.O operation or actions showing the pattern in which the action or operation is executed. If it is a Demonic someone had to open a door for it. Tried to contact the other side? Ask a diety for something? Contact random spirits? Demonic worship or worship in a Satanic level. Meaning praying to or asking an evil spirit for something. There patterns are basically all the same just the outcome differs. Bad Orders sulfuric rotten egg smell. A lot of bad luck to the point its not normal. Scratching noises,Chanting,Pounding,succubus or incubus activity,No religious relic can be placed in the home due to it mysteriously breaking or simply vanishing,Possession,Oppression,Growling,Reaction with animals. being hit or slapped,scratched or marked, and someone in the home being a divination tool between its world and ours. There is thousands more clues to the point I couldn't list them all. Now you say there is toys? You have a Daughter? or are you going through menopause? Or anything hormonal? Because what you are describing sounds more like poltergeist activity rather then Demonic. The word poltergeist comes from two German words: pattern meaning to make noise and geist meaning ghost. Literally translated a poltergeist is a noisy ghost. it has been argued that it is mostly Psychokinetic, prepubescent women or women in great distress can manifest this sort of activity. Were there any horrible things that has happened to you or your child? Molestation? Beatings? any kind of abuse? Once we pinpoint what it maybe we can help you from there. Getting someone who really doesn't know what there doing to come out and cleanse can make this situation worse. We need to pinpoint what it is then act. So has there been any contact with demonic's? Or harm to you or your child? Much information as possible would help us help you. again thank you.
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Post by blocks on Dec 19, 2010 15:09:46 GMT -5
Alright, so I'm going to try to give as much information in reply as possible. If you need to know more, let me know!
So, nothing terribly tramatic in my life. Broken home, absent father, etc. Had a really mean step-dad, nothing physical. I am a pretty strong person; educated, good job, assertive. I'm very grounded and consider myself in good mental health, so not likely this is a paranoia thing or that I'm imagining it.
The only thing that I can think about opening doors for something demonic would be when I was like 14 or so I had an Ouija Board. I didn't realize then the implications. I didn't mess with it too many times because it was always one spririt who came through and he was mean. Not even sure what happened to the board. This is several years prior to my paranormal activity starting.
I don't have anything hormonal going on. Probably 20-30 years from menopause. I do have a child, that's why there are so many toys around the house that play music and stuff. It's only the three instances that they have gone off by themselves. Nothing physical has happened to either of us. The only different thing about my daughter is that for about three weeks now she gets up in between 3 and 4 am every single night, stays up for hours. She doesn't tell me why or seem scared, she just watches TV until she goes back to sleep. In our last residence she would point in the corner and tell me there was a scary dog. It would make her cry as she was terrified but that only happened a couple times.
I do think that I am sensitive. My mother has seen ghosts throughout her life, but nothing signifigant. I have three times dreamed of people when they pass, before I have found out. My step-grandmother, neice, and step-father. I dreamed off all three, very hectic dreams and find out the next day of their passing. Not sure what that means, it just happens.
I am definitely reluctant of the the whole demon idea. There is definitely something going on though and my biggest concern is why it keeps happening to me.
Let me know of any other information that can help. Thank you so much for your time, it's greatly appreciated!
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Post by angelica777 on Dec 19, 2010 23:42:25 GMT -5
Welcome aboard!
The only thing I can contribute tonight after reading your story is that I noticed activity occurred after each move. (Sleepy, lol) Moves are stressful enough without having paranormal stuff to deal with! Is the any history/Heritage issues that could be at play in your experiences? You said your mom saw ghosts, what about other family members, present or past? Good luck, will keep you and your daughter in my prayers. Let us know how things are going. Its good that you are self aware. Keeping a good support system is important.
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Post by angelica777 on Dec 19, 2010 23:44:03 GMT -5
((((Hugging a gypsy gul))))) ;D
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Post by blocks on Dec 19, 2010 23:49:52 GMT -5
Hello! Well I have been in this house since August, and things are just starting to really happen. There have been other places I've lived inbetween that nothing happened at. My mom has never said if any other family members had experiences like us. She's not close with her family. As far as my heritage, I am a 16th Cherokee, German, and Swedish. I did consider that my daughter is going to be sensitive (if I indeed am) because my most significant experience was when I saw the girl and the dark shadow, I was about 8 months pregnant. Then when she could barely talk she was seeing the "scary dog". Idk.... thanks for being!
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Post by angelica777 on Dec 20, 2010 0:07:24 GMT -5
Your very welcome. Gypsy is right. You have to know what you are dealing with before cleaning house.... You do have to look for obvious explanations before assuming something is paranormal.
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Post by ojibwe on Dec 20, 2010 12:24:05 GMT -5
Hello Blocks, My Name is Shawnee and I am one of the Administrators here. I want to first welcome you to our "Family"!!!
After reading your posts I can not help but feel that this has something to do with someone who has passed... there is a very strong Family link.
Could you tell me, did your Step Father or Biological Father pass BEFORE any of this began?? Did someone else in your Family... maybe a close Friend or Loved One pass before all of this started??
I know.... SOOO MANY questions... hang in there with me Hun, SORRY!!!!
I know that it was a long time ago, but do you remember what the name of the "mean spirit" was, that came through to you when you used the board?? Was it the same one each time??? PLEASE DON'T SPEAK THE NAME ALLOWED, just type it, if you can remember it... THANK YOU!!!
I know some of these questions may feel very personal and I will understand if you would rather message me with the answers, if you feel comfortable enough to answer at all. NO WORRIES, I know that this can be hard!!!!
1) Is your Daughters Father with you and if so, has he been with you through out all of these incidents?? I ask because it may well be that this... thing / person is attached to HIM and not necessarily you.
If you are sensitive, and I feel that BOTH You and your Daughter are... You could be attracting things to you unknowingly at each place you have had experiences. Children and some adults are like beacons, lighthouses in the dark for every type of spirit, or "other" that is out there roaming around.
2) Does your Daughter say that the "mean dog" she see's always looks the same, or is it different each time??
3) Do you think that she could draw you a picture of what it looks like??
4) I am also wondering what she means by, "mean" Mean how, is it threatening or is she just intimidated by large dogs in general??
Your emotional changes do stand out to me... 5) Can you please explain what you mean... do you get angry for no reason, become depressed, do you loose time, {loose hours or days, things have happened that you don't remember... conversations or actions}
You need to know that you are not alone, we are here to help!!! This is a safe place to express yourself and know that you are being believed and heard by NON-JUDGMENTAL ears!!!
It is possible that you have been followed by the same, "entity" all these years. It seems as though it rears it's ugly head every few years or so, correct???
There are ways to clear a home, but in your case, as with all cases... it is very important to know just what we are dealing with in order to get rid of this once and for all, using the proper methods. I really do NOT feel that this is inhuman, or a demon. However... a dark, negative entity can be just as dangerous in many ways!!!
I look forward to hearing from you again SOON!!!! I will be out of town, 12/21 - 12/26, but PLEASE know that I / WE are ALL HERE TO HELP YOU!!!! I WILL GET BACK TO YOU HUN!!!!That is a promise!!! I will be back on-line this evening for sure and early tomorrow morning... just in-case you would happen to get this.
Take Care, Be Safe and know that I will be sending up prayers of Strength, Light and Protection for you and your family!!! Happy Holidays my Friend!!!! Always, Shawnee / AKA: Ojibwe
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Post by GypsyMoon on Dec 20, 2010 14:15:25 GMT -5
Is the Dog Black and Large like a Labrador or a Mastiff? Many spirits will shape shift into animals more so Black Dog's then any other animal. I was raised in the lore of the Black Dog specter aka Black Shuck . I have studied its origins for many years. Black Shuck has been deemed demonic or evil it has even been called Satan's puppy. I personally believe it is not. I believe it might be a warning or omen or even some kind of spectral protector. From what I have studied on it or through interviews I have given people who claimed to have seen it. Black shuck also can be summond as a protector does anyone you know practise witchcraft? Not Wicca but The Craft itself? Or the Pagan priest/priestess cast a protection spell on your daughter? I mean all activity might be a cluster F*** of bad practises by people who tried to remove something or protect your home and welcomed more guest in there. Look at it this way, if you told sombody there was someone in your house that wouldnt leave. That person didnt know how to make the person leave so he sent 2 more in there to get him out they started looking around and figured they would kick him out and stay there. You would then be as far ahead as when you started +1. I dont see any connection with the ouija board either when you said it laid dormant afterwards. Was your parents hippies? Did they worship maybe Anton Levay's teachings? Or Edgar Casey? Or practise dark arts on LSD? If its been following you for a while then it has something to do with your family opening the door or a sibling maybe? Hang in there we will get to the Bottom of this and if you like when we have pin pointed the root we will even call a local Paranormal investigator in your area to help you close the door that has open or help you get to the bottom of it. Hang in there we will figure it out.
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Post by blocks on Dec 20, 2010 19:48:36 GMT -5
Hi Ladies! I just want to thank you for your prompt attention! Last night, nothing happened for the first night in five. I'm going to start with Shawnee... Okay, so my step father died August of this year. So the other two instances would not be connected. But I did say in the beginning, that this feels different than the other two times. Both other times I could barely be at my home because the feelings were over bearing. Bother times before I felt anexiety, a great deal of fear, and in danger. I don't really feel any of that this time. The depression I'm feeling may or may not be related as I'm in kind of a weird place in my life. Nothing bad is happening, just stressful job, boring social and love life right now. BUT...if you are feeling a family connection I think it's worth exploring my step-father. When he died, I dreamed of the night before he was found (not sure exactly what time he passed, he was alone). Since then I have had one very vivid dream of him and another very vivid dream of the house I grew up in that was his.
Omgoodness, I didn't think I was going to remember the name of the spirit, but without a doubt it was Dug. He would cuss at us. First he would pretend he was someone else and then start taunting us that it was him again. I had no clue what it meant or why, that's why we got bored with it.
My daughter's father has never been around. Since this happened this is no one consistent that I have lived with. I have not even lived in the same place for the three instances, and the last two are in a different state than the last.
When my daughter was seeing something she was saying "scary puppy"...That's all she would say. She was probably about 1 1/2 at a time and couldn't articulate more. She doesn't give any hint of any other experiences. Also, I we have moved since.
The emotional changes kind of come in waves of overwhelming depression, usually a couple weeks of really bad and then it lets up. Periods (as in maybe just the day or for a few days) of irritability, and no patience at all and I'll get VERY angry over something I know isn't that serious. Like I said above, I'm not fully satisified with my life right now but I also don't think that I should be so depressed and so exhausted all the time. I'm definitely still functional though.
Thank you Shawnee! I appreciate it so much!
Hi Gypsy!! So I do not know anyone who has ever practiced any version of the craft, good or bad. The priest wouldn't have cast a spell of protection on my daughter because that was before she was even conceived. Neither of my parents were hippies or anything. I only have one sibling and he wouldn't have opened any doors, I don't think he's ever had any types of experiences.
Again, thank you both so much for your time and concern. I really, really appreicate it!
I don't mind the questions as long as it helps!
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Post by ojibwe on Dec 21, 2010 13:17:54 GMT -5
Hello again Blocks, Thank You so much for answering so many questions... I KNOW that is not an easy thing to do. I did a lot of... "focusing" on your current situation and I really think that this particular situation has a lot to do with your Step Father.
It is my "feeling", that you have been highly sensitive your whole life. Please... feel free to correct me if you think that I am wrong. You have always had prophetic dreams, you can pick up on others emotional states and more often then not... they will effect you for the entire day, if not longer. You often have deep feelings of Da-sha-vue and sense when there are, "others / spirits" around. You have feelings of being watched or that something is just not right.
I get the strong impression that each of the experiences that you have had, are unrelated.
It feels to me that you have more likely, inadvertently drawn,"something or someone" to you, {due to your "gifts"}. Or that these "things", were drawn to you because of your "gifts". Further I feel that your Daughter has the same abilities that you have and they are even stronger, due to her age and the fact that she has not been told that such things "do not exist" or that things like this just don't happen to "real people"... Only in the movies or to crazy people, people with mental illness, etc.
I have tried to research, "Dug" and have not been able to come up with anything. It is more likely that you may have come across either a negative spirit who liked to, play games. Or better, a human spirit who may have been possessed in life and passed as a result the non-human entity is keeping them from crossing over. I really do not feel that this activity is a result of that time in your life.
I just can not shake the Family connection regarding your current situation. Your Step Father really seems to have an "issue". Either he wants to continue tormenting you OR he is trying to get your attention to say that he is sorry for how he treated you??? It is hard for me to really get a good "link" with the situation as we have only corresponded once.
Hun, I think that you should start a journal. Document any and everything that happens... Both with you and your Daughter, both in AND outside of the home. Keeping a dream journal is also a very good idea for you as dreams have always been a good communication tool for you. Keeping in mind that a dream journal is only helpful if dreams are documented as soon as you wake up. We begin to loose details with in 30 to 40 seconds after waking.
Maybe try walking through the house addressing any spirits that may be there. Telling them that you are aware of their presence and that you are ready to hear whatever they have to say. HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HARM EITHER YOU OR OUR CHILD IN ANY WAY!!! You could try using a recorder in the most active places in your home... just allowing them to run over night to see if you are able to catch anything. I would also ask that your things be put back and not touched again. It could be that your items were taken to get your attention. If "they" know that they have your attention, your personal items might turn up.
As a Native American, I do not follow what others might call, a mainstream religion, I am Traditional. But, one thing you may want to consider... if this would be a "demon", having and wearing a St. Michaels medallion, blessed if possible, would help to ward off any physical or mental attacks. It should be worn next to the skin. If your Daughter is to little to wear jewelery, you can hang one near her bed to help as she sleeps. Just a thought...
As to your emotional roller coaster, I really do think that keeping a journal might help you a lot with this as well. For instance, if you go in to work and come across a co-worker that may be very depressed due to a home situation... and that day or the next day you find that you are inexplicably, deeply depressed for no reason of your own... It could be that you are Empathic: able to both pick up on and feelings, emotions and mental status of others, both alive and passed. Further, you do not have to be in the same room with someone for this to happen. A relative or close friend could be going through something or become ill and you will sense it, or just get the feeling that you should call them... etc. It has happened to you in the past... your dreaming of the passing of loved ones.
As an Empath myself, I can tell you that unless you learn to control and are able to separate what is yours, verses what is someones else's, it can consume you.
I am sorry for the LOOOONG post, LOL!!! ;D I really do look forward to hearing from you again!!!!
We are not leaving today due to weather conditions, but we will be leaving tomorrow and won't be back until 12/26... weather permiting... Again, I will be on-line later this evening and early tomorrow morning. I hope that I will catch you or a new post from you!!! Stay Safe and Stay Warm!! I am not sure where you are from, but I am here in good ole' Wisconsin and it is snowing and cold... Well, maybe not so cold today, it is 22 degrees... a virtual heat wave!!! LOL!!!!
I will be sending you Strength and Light my Friend!!! Yours Respectfully, ShawneeP.S. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS!!!!
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Post by GypsyMoon on Dec 21, 2010 13:36:27 GMT -5
Dug: Is a Scottish word pronounced Dahg translation means Dark Stranger/Visitor or Dark River,. I find this typical in Demonics never to give out real names but its funny that you have spoken about Dark or shadow figures. This could be our "Dug". in the flesh, in sorts. I do believe though you might be a Empath as well.
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Post by blocks on Dec 21, 2010 20:05:51 GMT -5
Well Gypsy...that's scary!! The ONLY time I have ever actually seen anything with my own eyes was that one time with the little girl who was terrified of "him", who appeared to me as just a dark shadow, more kind of a blob. Idk, I can't explain the fear I experienced during that entire situation. Again, I don't have any of that fear this time. I basically just demanded he leave the girl alone, leave my home, and burnt some sage. The feelings got weaker for a couple days then it finally just stopped.
Shawnee,
So much to reply to! I appreciate your time and your lengthly posts! It's giving me a lot of information and a lot to consider. I'm going to try to go in order!
I had to laugh when you said I probably get very strong feelings of deja vu. Omg!! Just today I was presenting in a meeting. It was a very serious issue that I was presenting to 8 people, plus I had a collegue right beside me. I started getting an overwhelming feeling of deja vu, I tried to just acknowledge it in my head and move on, then it's like every move I made, from looking down at my notes and to what I was saying and even feeling the deja vu was...well, deja vu!! Lol, I serious stopped mid-sentence and said that I was having deja vu and had to like take a breath and refocus. What you described, about that, the dreams, etc is definitely accurate. And in regards to my daughter, I'm really not sure. All I can tell you is that when I was pregnant and was going through the thing with what turned out to be the dark shadow and the little girl I had this absolutely overbearing feeling that things were so intense because she was, well inside me. That might sound crazy, but I felt like it had a lot to do with her and I remember thinking a lot about "how am I going to help her deal with this? especially if she's stronger at it than me and I can't fully relate to what she experiences." I guess only time will tell with that.
Hopefully I don't bore you but let me tell you a little more about the dream the night my step dad died. I can still see it in my head and it was almost five months ago. Maybe it can give you some insight to whether or not this is him just trying to reach out. Btw, I would but more cards towards him maybe just trying to reach out and not torment me, I feel this way because of the dream. Alright, the dream was one of those all night dreams. That will go from hectic situation to another, randomly, not a lot of transition. I don't recall a lot of detail on that but when I dream like that it's exhausting. I wake up and feel like I didn't sleep. Anyways, so hours into this hectic, on going dream all of a sudden I was in my childroom room (the entire dream was on the property I grew up on) and my best friend and I are there (as a adults) and my daughter. I looked out the window and the swing set was engolfed by a tornado. I grabbed my daughter and pushed my friend out the door screaming to get in the bathroom. As I crossed the hallway, he was standing right there and kind of guided us in the bathroom. The house got swept up by the tornado, the dream abruptly ended, but I got the sense we were fine. I have not seen him in 8 years, but his face was as clear as day. I know I've had one other dream where he appeared since then but I can't even recall the details. So, that's that. Idk if it tells you anything!
I am a little reluctant to address any spirits yet. Only because I don't want to start up anything like either of the prior two situations. Those were terrifying. I feel right now like this is just making sure I know it's here, I don't feel threatened. Honestly, I just don't want to go through what I did before. Lol, that probably sounds weird. Idk, I will consider but want to just observe for right now. I'm definitely going to start a journal. I think that's a good idea.
As far as me being empathic. I don't know a lot about what that really means. I will do my research, but the things you describe do fit the bill. Right now a lady that I work very closely with is going through some really, really hard times and is taking one hit after another and I wonder if that's having an impact on me? I used to meditate, never felt like anything major happened. But when the spirit thing started again, I started meditating again. I started when I wake up and go to bed surrounding myself with a light, doing it head to toe, like in an oval, and seeing happiness, energy, and productiveness. Those are the things I feel like have been sucked out of me and effecting so much. For the first time, I feel it. I've been more productive in the past two days at work than I had been all month.
Sorry this is getting long, Just trying to give you a good picture. I know those last couple sentences may seem like "DUH" but you have to understand that while I 100% believe in the things I've experienced....it can be very hard for me to accept. I have a very extensive education in Law. I did a psychological profile test and my job about a year ago and it came back that my base personality is Thoughts. Which means I am extremely fact focused and very analytical. A base personality 80% of attorneys have. Lol, if I had not experienced the things I have I don't know how much I would believe it. PLEASE KNOW I IN NO WAY MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE!!! I'm just saying this stuff is new to me and I think I deal with the situations as they arrise and then try to forget and probably need to embrase some things and educate myself? Do you have any suggestions on where to start?
I cannot thank you all enough for being there and taking so much of your own time listening and giving advise. I really do appreciate it.
Be safe on your travels! I am in 75 degree weather right now but am from the Mid-West so know what you are experiencing! It's already been a rough winter up there so please be safe and have a wonderful holiday all!!
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Post by angelica777 on Dec 21, 2010 23:56:03 GMT -5
78 degree weather today in Louisiana. Tomorrow might bring rainy cold weather. You just never know here! We all love to gripe whatever the conditions,lol. Block, you are right to hang back and not take action at this point. That kind of fight can be very draining, If you meet with a situation, that necessitates a showdown, so to speak, so be it. when you or a loved one are threatened, you find courage and strength surprisingly fast. I am glad to hear you are being proactive, meditating and envisioning white protective light around you and your daughter. That is great. I am also glad to know you are feeling better, as a result. Just knowing these ladies are flanking you is huge. They have been awesome to me. Somethings just sound so outlandish to think much less talk about. Here, I found encouragement and insight, instead of ridicule. You are on the road to self discovery and are not alone when things get tough.
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